PDA

View Full Version : Rain course measurement?



Brad Peters
11-17-2012, 12:50 PM
Did anyone wheel the course today? Do we have an accurate measurement?

Hal Harkness
11-17-2012, 01:22 PM
No, it is a shortened version of the Footlocker 5k course. Will try to get that done for 2013.

Coach Razor
11-17-2012, 02:32 PM
Rich has written the course as 2.96mi

JStepp
11-17-2012, 02:39 PM
If its the exact same as the one last year, Mike Goff told me he measured it as 2.91.

Rich Gonzalez
11-17-2012, 02:44 PM
Rich Ede told me it was 2.96 before the meet. Hal Harkness estimated it to be 2.95 when leaving the meet.

Will note it with an asterisk.

Doug Soles
11-17-2012, 03:50 PM
Rich Ede told me it was 2.96 before the meet. Hal Harkness estimated it to be 2.95 when leaving the meet.

Will note it with an asterisk.

You mean we didn't run the regular course today? Starting to feel like a regular course for a CIF race. ;)

Thank you to all of the meet managers and workers for putting this on so well! George Varvas and his timing crew are amazing! Look at how many timing issues have happened this year around the country (NCAA Champs and at Mt. SAC for example). George's team always pulls it off so well, and fast! Props to CIF for hiring such a pro, it is appreciated!

Hal Harkness
11-17-2012, 06:51 PM
George and the Woodbridge crew are the best!

Ringer
11-17-2012, 07:27 PM
I got over my hate for the rain course today; after the past couple of years I've finally learned where to run around to spectate. It must be a tough call as to when you make the final decision--12 hours before the first race?

Hal Harkness
11-17-2012, 07:59 PM
How about 5:30 Saturday morning, don't have the slightest idea what you mean about 12 hours before the first race.

George Ramos
11-18-2012, 05:00 AM
You mean we didn't run the regular course today?

Here's my question: was the course (namely the hairpin) the same as CIF Prelims last year?

By the way, the map (http://www.cifss.org/sports_news.php?id=5) of the rain course says 2.91. I'd attach it, but the message board isn't letting me attach pdfs? I've linked to the CIF-SS Web site.

Hal Harkness
11-18-2012, 07:28 AM
George, it is the same layout we used in last year's prelims. I'll check with Mike Goff at Mt. Sac to see if he actually measured the shortened version (ours) of the Footlocker 5k rain course. We ran the full 5k course in the 2010 finals and the only practical way to cut the distance down was to shorten the turn around loop in the soccer field parking lot.

yesstiles
11-18-2012, 09:35 AM
The course used at the 2010 Finals was 3.24 miles, measured by several people and reported at Dyestat. The course used at the 2011 Prelims iirc was measured as well and reported at Dyestat as 2.94 miles. Does anyone else remember these reports or have access to the posts concerning this topic last year?

Chad Scott
11-18-2012, 10:38 AM
As has been stated, a huge thanks to George for the timing and the rest of CIF (Hal, Tim, and many others I don't know about) for the overall art of putting on the meet.

Having the course measured would be a good idea. It doesn't have to be super official...if Ken Reeves wants to walk the course with a wheel I think we all would accept that as "official!"

The thread is still up on the ESPN site. It is on about page 10 and has roughly 60 posts. Can't link to it, though.

Again, thanks to all for a good day. Best of luck to everyone who qualified for Fresno!

yesstiles
12-06-2012, 04:18 PM
I saw Ken Reeves measuring the prelims rain course last weekend.

Well Ken, what's the official measurement?

JStepp
12-06-2012, 05:49 PM
I saw Ken Reeves measuring the prelims rain course last weekend.

Well Ken, what's the official measurement?

It was 2.9260, a 126 meters short of the traditional course. I'll send you his breakdown and markers.

yesstiles
12-06-2012, 06:36 PM
It was 2.9260, a 126 meters short of the traditional course. I'll send you his breakdown and markers.


Thanks Jay!

"126 meters short of traditional course?" :confused:

I saw distances of 2.94, 2.95, and 2.96 being thrown around as the distance of this year's rain course. I was leaning towards the shorter number, and it turns out it's 2.93. So now we can tell our kids to add 21-23 seconds to their times (depending on how fast they ran) to get their new pr conversions for 3 miles.


I saw Ken Reeves measuring the prelims rain course last weekend.

Sorry, I meant Finals rain course. I was thinking of it being for prelims last year.