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Mexrunner
11-17-2012, 02:01 PM
By any chance does anyone know the time difference between the Rain Course used today for the Southern Section Finals and Woodward?


Thank You

Rich Gonzalez
11-17-2012, 02:47 PM
By any chance does anyone know the time difference between the Rain Course used today for the Southern Section Finals and Woodward?


Thank You

It's a wide range. Some people are suited for the hills and others really benefit from using the rain course. Using the rain course throws a wrench into those kind of things.

Keith Chann
11-17-2012, 03:51 PM
As a very, very , very rough estimate:
Last year I had a 48 second conversion from the rain course to the regular Mt. SAC course for division 3 runners. Then you can apply the semi-standard 18 second conversion for male runners to get a 1:06 conversion.
However, several things are quite a bit complicated: the time conversion should not be standard through the whole time range, the conditions were really ideal this year, as pointed out by Rich, some runners really benefit from not having the hills, and then the randomness factor of having a good day or not.

From preliminary conversions this year, not enough data to really standardize it but try multiplying the rain course time by 1.55-1.06 to get a very rough conversion through the time range. That is right about 50 seconds for 14 flat runners and 54 seconds for 15 flat runners. (Thanks Mark for the early math).

**The above is comletely based off of zero scientific data and is a mere eye-ball adjusted, mythical, rough, quick conversion. Not appropriate for wagering!!

JStepp
11-17-2012, 04:38 PM
**The above is comletely based off of zero scientific data and is a mere eye-ball adjusted, mythical, rough, quick conversion. Not appropriate for wagering!!

Damn!!! No wonder Vegas won't pay me. :(

Mexrunner
11-17-2012, 04:50 PM
Yea i believe it when saying its hard to judge.. Thank you guys for your replies and help greatly appreciate it. Congrats to everyone on their season and those who made it to state good luck.

Ringer
11-17-2012, 07:15 PM
Hard to convert the little-used Mt. SAC rain course against the regular (and longer, more hilly) Woodward. The SAC rain course is obviously a lot faster than the regular SAC course; Baxter won in like 15:53 and wasn't even breathing hard at the finish.