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    No worries. That's just Tony's way of saying he...

    No one is talking about hating CIF.

    No worries. That's just Tony's way of saying he knows I'm not particularly enthralled with the way those in power abuse that power and hurt the...
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    With all due respect, there is no “letter”...

    Letter explains firing of popular Arcadia cross country coach

    With all due respect, there is no “letter” published and there is no “explanation” for what occurred. What you have is an embattled...
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    Very, very disappointing. I sincerely hope the...

    Very, very disappointing. I sincerely hope the parents and students don’t lose heart. There is really only one way to make the school board and the administrators more respectful and cognizant of...
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    Kinda agree. Watching those two at NXN would...

    Arcadia's team this fall might have become the best ever if this situation did not arise and I say that not caring how fast CBA's guys ran this spring.

    Kinda agree. Watching those two at NXN...
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    Agree! Except Lompoc is the greatest ever, and...

    always willing to put himself in a difficult position if it means protecting his kids.


    Agree!

    Except Lompoc is the greatest ever, and next year's CBA team will give them a run for their...
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    this is great. awesome feed. where are they...

    this is great. awesome feed. where are they reporting the results?
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    Not sure I’d ever want to convince that parent...

    You share the training plans from ALL of the top programs in the state and the results that follow.. Direct them to http://www.campotrack.com/xcPAGES/xctrainingPAGE.html
    for starters. INCREDIBLE...
  8. Also wish you the very best. And while it's...

    Since most colleges emphasize track times I do plan on running with the HS during that season. I'll only be sitting out cross country in order to get back to good training habits, develop a stronger...
  9. Guess it depends upon how you define category. ...

    There aren't too many in the Cain and Verzbicas category. Doug Todd at Mt. Sac, who is the Western Regional Meet Manager, would have the correct answer.

    Guess it depends upon how you define...
  10. I think Cain and Verzbicas chose wisely.

    A runner who skips his/her high school cross country season has everything to lose and nothing to win. Poor decision.

    I think Cain and Verzbicas chose wisely.
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    You're right. This is kinda boring now. There...

    This thread should be retitled to "Message Board Vultures!" Yawn...next topic please.

    You're right. This is kinda boring now. There really haven't been that many fascinating threads on this...
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    First, let me apologize to you for making you the...

    Threetrees,

    I don't appreciate you saying I need a wake up call just because you think I need youth coaches helping me, or allowing kids to bring in private coaches just so I can attract youth...
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    I agree that Martin is framing the real issue. ...

    i have to agree with martin here, threetrees, if you want to know where i stand. i also think private coaching intrusion/support is truly on a case by case basis--it depends on the event, the coach,...
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    Ok, I've tried hard to stay away from that "other...

    Ok, I've tried hard to stay away from that "other thread" that's going on here, but mary cain's 4:04.62 tonight is strong support for both the private coaching argument AND the U.S. can compete with...
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    I stand corrected. While Mr. Scoot’s...

    That's a generalized statement unsubstantiated by any studies or facts.

    I stand corrected. While Mr. Scoot’s understanding of the youth scene may be a little myopic, he isn't necessarily wrong. ...
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    You know, there's something deeper going on in...

    You know, there's something deeper going on in the above analysis. And not just that I'm a jerk for doing it.

    Peel back the onion a bit. It's really interesting to see, on so many levels, how...
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    Ok, Rene’s gonna slap me silly for this, but what...

    I would have to agree with Doug Soles. I've been coaching at Monroe H.S for 14 years and the very few instances I've had with private coaches have been squashed. What ends up happening is the kids...
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    So Cush, I have to ask, where do you really come...

    so, in effort to stir it up more



    So Cush, I have to ask, where do you really come out this issue?

    I find the discourse to be rather amusing, and would be on the ground laughing at some of...
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    Why would you ever want to bring Rich into this? ...

    this thread was way more interesting before this recent love fest.

    so, in effort to stir it up more, has anyone ever seen threetrees and rich gonzalez in the same room together?



    Why would...
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    I think my mantra has been consistent from the...

    Wait...you are saying it's our fault that the rest of the worlds youth are better than us?

    ... we did not create the rules or CIF...we are the ones who everyday try to do our very best despite...
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    Please Tony. You want stats. Brother O'Connell...

    Three's you didn't click on my links??? If you had you would have noticed all of the recent marks on the all time list for the OC and Riverside? I will assume you did look but didn't care to comment...
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    Thanks Cush, I feel better now. Originally I was...

    but, i still believe you are crazy. i'm not joking.


    Thanks Cush, I feel better now. Originally I was just a “crazy, venom-spewing, unhappy, unsatisfied and unfulfilled, egotistical, selfish...
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    Ok, skip the stats. Tony, you’re smart. But you...

    ThreeTrees... Can I call you Three since you call me by my first name? Thanks!

    You attack us yet you should be thanking us for doing the job we do! You (and by you I mean as you stated the...
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    Well, now you're just being disingenuous. When I...

    Well, now you're just being disingenuous. When I shared with you some personal details earlier this year I never told you what really drove them. You simply assumed they were sports related because...
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    Doug, I’ll share another story. In my line of...

    Doug,

    I’ll share another story. In my line of work I don’t get to sit in an ivory tower and make fun of others or be dismissive the way you can be. Sadly, look around your girl’s team. There’s...
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